ok....so many of you kids are probably really smart and comfortable here in japan by now.... well, most days i'm not. i've been here about 7 months and only have a basic grasp of the japanese language. hence little things happen all the time that make me realize just what a clueless gaijin i am....and i am going to share one of these moments (a rather large important one) with you in hopes that no one else will fall prey to the same thing i did:
some guy came to the door and said he was a policeman and needed our information (phone numbers, places of work, birthdays, etc) for the city police records. he also asked to see our gaijin cards. i was instantly suspicious because his uniform didn't look very policey, plus he didn't seem very confident, and i just had a bad feeling. my boyfriend assured me that the guy seemed nice enough & he was probably collecting our info for emergency evacuation procedures or something and persuaded me to give the guy my info (what a sweet trusting lad he is! and i always overreact, so i followed his instinct on this one). anyway, i asked my boss about it, and she said it sounded strange, so she called the police and asked them about it. of course they hadn't sent anyone out and said that it must have been someone posing as an officer to gather personal information about residents in order to: 1)scope out the place for anything worth stealing and find out who works outside the home and what times 2)steal identity numbers to make fake IDs and/or take out loans with someone else's ID number & other info 3)who knows what other creepiness??
so what i would like to share with you (besides my own stupidity at giving him ALL my personal info!!) is what the police department told my boss:
1) the police department usually sends officers out in pairs, not alone, to someone's door
2) if the police want to collect personal info, they will tell you explicitly what it's for (and this would be a very rare case). if language is an issue, they would encourage you to call a japanese speaking friend or would just leave and return later with an (insert your language here) speaker
3) police officers will always show clear IDs, and you can copy down their ID numbers for your records
4) police officers who come to your door will always be wearing large badges, also with ID numbers
5) and of course the usual....always keep your door locked, hide your valuables, don't answer the door to anyone you don't know, blah, blah, blah.
so i hope someone out there might find this info helpful!! now, i have some questions. has this happened to anyone else? anyone else heard something about people doing stuff like this? if so, any advice on what extra precautions i should take? (i.e., can i change my ID number or something like that?) any tips on dealing with charges you didn't make in japan (in case it comes to that)? thanks! :) and ganbatte!!
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Of course, here in Kyoto the only people I've had at my door are Jehovah's Witnesses and NTT reps.
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i thought posting this would be good because 1) it might save someone else from making the same mistake
2) it might have happened to someone else who could give me info about where all i should report this (embassies, city hall??) and if I should change my ID number or something (or if that:s even possible).
i got some info from the police, but if anyone else has been in a similar situation, i:d love to hear advice!
p.s. i was also a nova employee....didn:t get paid for months just after moving here....lost my apartment....etc. i am just now getting my feet back on the ground. sure, shit happens, sure, i have a lot to be thankful for, and i:m totally ok now....for the most part, i love living in japan and have a wonderful time every day!! but my situation here was incredibly stressful and frustrating at first, especially since i was pissed that i had been lied to by job recruiters. i know some people are just negative, but you have to remember that you don:t know everyone:s backgrounds and stories before you can judge if they should be angry or not. maybe something legit is going on.
anyway, thanks everyone, so much for your comments! i did end up reporting the incident to not only the police but also my embassy and city hall. i just hope the creepy man leaves us alone!! :)
April 21 2008, 14:14:07 UTC 4 years ago
...OT: I can certainly endorse your point about learning to not let it get to you--certainly nothing we can do about other people's prior assumptions no matter where we are--but that doesn't mean it can't get frustrating. :-(
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April 21 2008, 16:21:02 UTC 4 years ago
To the original poster: My husband said that the police came to his apartment (before I moved here) and that they did everything according to what you've written, like the whole two police officers and being very official.
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April 21 2008, 19:42:15 UTC 4 years ago
I think they asked to see our cards because we were dropped off by a cab in front of a konbini, seemed a bit drunk, and could have quite possibly been prostitutes. O_o That was the only time I was ever asked to show my gaijin card, aside from that one time that I got into a fender bender and had left my international driver's license at home (I was quite forgetful at that time, apparently...).
April 21 2008, 11:56:20 UTC 4 years ago
BTW, you aren't the only foreigner who has been unsatisfied with their life in Japan (I'm living proof!).
April 21 2008, 12:03:46 UTC 4 years ago
Hm, I was asked to show my ID on the street once by a femme officer because she "wanted to make friends". BWAHAHAHA. She didn't even call. :-(
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April 21 2008, 14:50:09 UTC 4 years ago
thanks
for telling your story. i would've felt suspicious but 'complied' as well. and yeah, sometimes i feel like everyone else had it all figured out 10 months ago but I'm still at the starting line :-) . gotta learn to love ourselves, eh?April 21 2008, 16:55:42 UTC 4 years ago
thanks for the heads up.. but how are they pinpointing gaijin? do they follow you home???:
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April 21 2008, 18:58:43 UTC 4 years ago
thank you so, so, SO much for posting this; i am quite sure that when i go to Japan i'll be going alone, and if i were in this situation i probably would have done the same thing that you did.
but now i know better!